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  • Tom Goskar 11:23 am on 31 July, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , 3D laser scanning, flickr, , , point clouds   

    Building Rome in a Day 

    The billions of photos taken in cities across the world and uploaded to places like Flickr, Photobucket et al might suddenly have a very interesting use. The University of Washington are experimenting with the creation of 3D “point clouds” similar to those created by terrestrial laser scanners, from downloaded images.

    By sourcing images and applying the principles of photogrammetry and distributed computing, the results are very impressive. They aren’t going to rival laser scanners just yet, but the animations on the Building Rome in a Day project website are impressive, and show the huge potential of this approach.

    Entering the search term Rome on Flickr returns more than two million photographs. This collection represents an increasingly complete photographic record of the city, capturing every popular site, facade, interior, fountain, sculpture, painting, cafe, and so forth. It also offers us an unprecedented opportunity to richly capture, explore and study the three dimensional shape of the city.

    This particular project aims to create “sparse point clouds” to give a 3D overview of the layout of a city, and has interesting potential for interacting with and exploring a place virtually. They are running a parallel project investigating dense point clouds which looks promising, but probably won’t see any popular use for a long time due to the massive amount of processing and data storage involved (dense 3D point clouds and meshes are huge datasets).

    The University of Washington project is similar to Microsoft’s Photosynth project. But the difference is that with Photosynth, users have to manually create “synths” by uploading photos of a particular place. Photosynth does not allow users to tap into the millions of other images out there, which moves me to my next point.

    What about the copyright implications of crowd-sourced photos? Even if just using Creative Commons licensed images, imagine what the “attribution” page would look like if hundreds of thousands of images have been used from potentially tens of thousands of photographers. I’ll be interested to see how they deal with that side of things.

    But overall, this is an exciting development. There is huge potential for cultural heritage applications, especially in the areas of survey and interpretation. I will be following this project very closely.

     
    • Bill Hume 11:27 am on 28 September, 2009 Permalink

      Cool…undoubtedly and no doubt usefull in a global recording sense. It does however remind me of Photosynth in that the point clouds are unobtainable to us mere mortals. I had hoped for a system like ’synth where I could input photographs and have a point cloud constructed from them. Yes I know ’synth does that, but there is no mechanism for obtaining the point cloud data. It’s so frustrating.
      See
      http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=40f024dd-d24e-4d97-a530-501faefc639f
      It’s a synth of a standing stone I made last year. I love the point cloud, I can see it, but can’t obtain it as a data set. Let’s hope someone at Microsoft sees the real value of Photosynth soon.
      Bill Hume.

    • patrick 4:12 pm on 6 November, 2009 Permalink

      Hello:
      I am a 3d illustrator who specializes in renderings of events historical in nature.When I read your post with the subject “3d” it natural got my attention. Reading your post regarding “Building Rome in a day” I couldn’t help but think of the Google Earth project “Ancient Rome in 3d” and thought that may be something you would be interested in. I like your blog, some of the information I find quite interesting.

    • Bill Hume 11:58 pm on 7 March, 2010 Permalink

      There is now a free prog. which allows the simple extraction of point cloud data from Photosynth.

      http://pspcexporter.codeplex.com/

      Works an absolute treat. Only problem I have now is that I’m unable to get Meshlab to convert the point cloud to a mesh. Having never worked with 3D (in a computing sense), I forsee a steep and painful learning curve ahead.
      Worth trying it out. Just paste the url of my synth of the standing stone (above), into the appropriate box and hit go…….it really is that simple.
      Point cloud may be viewed in meshlab……I was surprised how much of the field boundaries were there, you need to zoom in on the stone itself.
      Hope this of interest to you,
      Bill Hume.

    • Tom Goskar 1:59 pm on 8 March, 2010 Permalink

      Thanks for the update, Bill. I will certainly try it out – the ‘old’ way of intercepting the data and converting the binary file was a lot of hassle.

      Unfortunately the examples I tried (mainly Stonehenge related) had terrible point clouds, so at least trying different ones will now be less painful (especially if the resultant point cloud is poor too!).

      Cheers,

      Tom

  • Tom Goskar 10:59 am on 5 September, 2006 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: flickr, , ,   

    Flickr does Geotagging 

    I’m a little slow in reporting this since I’ve been away on holiday, but Flickr have announced that geotagging is now one of their built-in features.

    Geotagging within Flickr

    This is a great move, since it can be quite daunting if you’re really into knowing (and seeing) where photos were taken, but don’t want to move over to rival Zooomr, or delve into some of the arcane geotagging browser extensions or 3rd party tools. It’s all done within Flickr’s Organizr, and it’s all drag and drop. You can even set levels of accuracy, i.e. associating photos with whole cities, or even down to street level.
    (More …)

     
    • Eduardo Manchon 10:38 am on 6 September, 2006 Permalink

      Flickr geotagging interface is brilliant, but Yahoo Maps coverage for most of the World is very poor. This is a important issue because Flickr’s geotagging interface is not designed for accuracy, but for massive geotagging, what it is perfect for some people, but not for others.

      If you prefer Google Maps for mapping your photos via drag and drop interface and you care about accuracy, our project, Panoramio, may be interesting for you. Btw, you can later watch the photos in Google Earth KML feed, a much better experience than web based maps.

      Eduardo

  • Tom Goskar 2:08 pm on 18 July, 2006 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: flickr, , , spatial, zooomr   

    Geotagging Photos: Zooomr 


    Silbury Hill, Wiltshire
    Silbury Hill, Wiltshire
    Hosted on Zooomr

    There’s one thing that Flickr doesn’t support natively, and that is the ability to ‘geotag’ photos. In a nutshell, geotagging is just associating spatial data (i.e. a set of coordinates) showing where you took a particular photo (or where the subject is located). You could then see where it was taken on a map, or browse photos via a mapping service such as Google Maps.

    A number of determined people have written hacks to get geotagging into Flickr. But these often use a plugin for Firefox called Greasemonkey, and a further set of scripts to build in the functionality into your photo pages. If you’re not technically minded, it’s not easy to do, and I think that most people will be put off by this approach.

    If you do use extensions such as GMiF, coordinates are stored in with your tags, so your tag lists will eventually become cluttered with tags such as “geotagged” and “geo:lat=51.519606″ etc. It’s not very elegant, but it does work.

    Zooomr photo sharing
    Step in Zooomr.

    Zooomr have built geotagging right into the heart of the system, with elegance. Your geotags are nicely hidden away (but still accessible). Viewing where photos were taken, or simply browsing photos by location on a map are all built-in, and very easy to use. Not to mention kind to the eyes.

    Zooomr doesn’t yet have the community aspect that Flickr does. Community is what makes Flickr so brilliant, and it is now very well established. I think that startups like Zooomr fill a nice gap at the moment, and help to keep giants like Flickr innovating and on their toes.

    Good luck Zooomr!

     
    • Kristopher Tate 2:37 pm on 18 July, 2006 Permalink

      Hi there and thanks for posting Zooomr!

      I suppose I’ve tried to make sure that geotagging is as simple and easy as possible. Though, in regard to community, we’re steadfast on building community systems into the whole picture.

      Flickr does a good job, but there is just sooo much more than can be done when you look at it.

      Looking forward to showing it to you and others.

      Best,

      Kristopher Tate

    • Tom 3:10 pm on 18 July, 2006 Permalink

      Thanks for responding Kristopher – it’s encouraging to know that a) you’re managing to run Zooomr and still reply personally on people’s blogs, and b) that community tools are on there way. This is great news.

      On a social level, people are tied to places, not just on a physical level – but memories of places, and pictures are memories in a way. To be able to tie the two together in a natural way is certainly the way forward, especially since GPS is beginning to appear in digital cameras now.

      Keep it up! :-)

    • Paul 1:30 pm on 28 July, 2006 Permalink

      That’s the way forward; gps feeding straight into a camera. I like the idea of geotagging but in practice, it’s a bit of a pain. There are fields within the exif metadata standard for location, so why not use them and automatically populate them from a gps unit…? Ideal solution :-)

      atb,
      Paul.

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