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	<title>Comments on: Free Our Maps (well, in the UK anyway)</title>
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	<description>Where Past Meets Future</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Free our data: New study casts doubt on Ordnance Survey&#8217;s copyright control @ SocietyGuardian.co.uk at Paul&#8217;s place</title>
		<link>http://www.pastthinking.com/blog/2006/11/08/free-our-maps-well-in-the-uk-anyway/#comment-15893</link>
		<dc:creator>Free our data: New study casts doubt on Ordnance Survey&#8217;s copyright control @ SocietyGuardian.co.uk at Paul&#8217;s place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the maintenance of what is currently an outstanding dataset (and have mentioned this before) and the other services currently provided by the OS; yes, some of the topographic polygon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about the maintenance of what is currently an outstanding dataset (and have mentioned this before) and the other services currently provided by the OS; yes, some of the topographic polygon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.pastthinking.com/blog/2006/11/08/free-our-maps-well-in-the-uk-anyway/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a shame. It sounded promising from the sketchy details on silicon.com. The definition of "non-commercial" could indeed be a grey area, especially if you work for a charity that operates in the commercial sector like many archaeology units...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a shame. It sounded promising from the sketchy details on silicon.com. The definition of &#8220;non-commercial&#8221; could indeed be a grey area, especially if you work for a charity that operates in the commercial sector like many archaeology units&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Larcombe</title>
		<link>http://www.pastthinking.com/blog/2006/11/08/free-our-maps-well-in-the-uk-anyway/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Larcombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the OS 'OpenSpace' API being demo'd at the recent UK geospatial mashup event. Sadly it looks as though the license is likely to be more restrictive than Google's in that it's limited to 'non-commercial' use only. What the definitions of non-commercial are, are AFAICT, not finalised yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the OS &#8216;OpenSpace&#8217; API being demo&#8217;d at the recent UK geospatial mashup event. Sadly it looks as though the license is likely to be more restrictive than Google&#8217;s in that it&#8217;s limited to &#8216;non-commercial&#8217; use only. What the definitions of non-commercial are, are AFAICT, not finalised yet.</p>
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		<title>By: paul c</title>
		<link>http://www.pastthinking.com/blog/2006/11/08/free-our-maps-well-in-the-uk-anyway/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>paul c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, you are spot on. Geographic data should be available for use without prohibitive license fees being payable. The only problem is the funding for the bodies which maintain the primary data... The Ordnance Survey makes a &lt;a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/aboutus/reports/annualreport/05-06/docs/accounts-2005-06.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;fortune &lt;/a&gt;in licensing fees but equally spends a &lt;a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/aboutus/reports/annualreport/05-06/docs/accounts-2005-06.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;fortune &lt;/a&gt;on its various roles; for example, the OS not only manages the primary map data for the UK but undertakes research into most if not all aspects of mapping, survey and other relevant technologies (see &lt;a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/partnerships/research/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt; their research pages &lt;/a&gt;for more details) and there is an obvious danger that such activities would suffer if their funding is not guaranteed. 

For archaeology, there are various sectors of the broader discipline which already have access to most if not all of the complete range of maps from the OS. Those in higher education (at subscribing institutions) can access the &lt;a href="http://edina.ac.uk/digimap/description/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Edina Digimap &lt;/a&gt;service which offers &lt;a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;everything &lt;/a&gt;including &lt;a href="http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/ItemDetails.jsp?item=os_historical" rel="nofollow"&gt;historic maps &lt;/a&gt;,all scales of modern maps and other geographic datasets. Local authorities generally have access to various maps often now including &lt;a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/osmastermap/" rel="nofollow"&gt;mastermap &lt;/a&gt;but often the historic maps too. Similarly, English Heritage and I imagine other similar bodies have a complete set of OS data. I appreciate the licensing arrangements are restrictive in terms of reuse and provision of data to third parties, but it is certainly possible in certain circumstances; perhaps what is needed is more cooperation and flexibility with licensing...? Or the government to find a way of increasing funding to the necessary bodies to compensate for the loss in revenue so the maps can be free to all; they've managed it in the &lt;a href="http://www.usgs.gov/" rel="nofollow"&gt;United States&lt;/a&gt; after all, where &lt;a href="http://nationalatlas.gov/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;geographic information is free to all&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, you are spot on. Geographic data should be available for use without prohibitive license fees being payable. The only problem is the funding for the bodies which maintain the primary data&#8230; The Ordnance Survey makes a <a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/aboutus/reports/annualreport/05-06/docs/accounts-2005-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">fortune </a>in licensing fees but equally spends a <a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/aboutus/reports/annualreport/05-06/docs/accounts-2005-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">fortune </a>on its various roles; for example, the OS not only manages the primary map data for the UK but undertakes research into most if not all aspects of mapping, survey and other relevant technologies (see <a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/partnerships/research/index.html" rel="nofollow"> their research pages </a>for more details) and there is an obvious danger that such activities would suffer if their funding is not guaranteed. </p>
<p>For archaeology, there are various sectors of the broader discipline which already have access to most if not all of the complete range of maps from the OS. Those in higher education (at subscribing institutions) can access the <a href="http://edina.ac.uk/digimap/description/" rel="nofollow">Edina Digimap </a>service which offers <a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/index.html" rel="nofollow">everything </a>including <a href="http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/ItemDetails.jsp?item=os_historical" rel="nofollow">historic maps </a>,all scales of modern maps and other geographic datasets. Local authorities generally have access to various maps often now including <a href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/osmastermap/" rel="nofollow">mastermap </a>but often the historic maps too. Similarly, English Heritage and I imagine other similar bodies have a complete set of OS data. I appreciate the licensing arrangements are restrictive in terms of reuse and provision of data to third parties, but it is certainly possible in certain circumstances; perhaps what is needed is more cooperation and flexibility with licensing&#8230;? Or the government to find a way of increasing funding to the necessary bodies to compensate for the loss in revenue so the maps can be free to all; they&#8217;ve managed it in the <a href="http://www.usgs.gov/" rel="nofollow">United States</a> after all, where <a href="http://nationalatlas.gov/index.html" rel="nofollow">geographic information is free to all</a>.</p>
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